[John] Trying to find a thread I'd posted that Matt asked, poking in the archives, I found some damn fine writing from Krimel, that explained a lot. Thought it was worth re-posting, considering his recent explanation of goals:
[Krimel] Thanks John, I'd forgotten that but then I have forgotten most everything. I don't know what it is you found explained in that. What I got from rereading it was a sense of the overpowering frustration that unfortunately has colored a lot of my writing here. I guess it's easy to see that venom in much of my current writing is just a continuation of venom inspired by the same tired arguments being hashed and rehashed. Lately I have taken to lashing out at Pirsig for the weird interpretations others place on him. I think this would be completely unfair if Pirsig had not more or less put his personal seal of approval on some of the distortions propagated in his name. I am less offended by his denial of Bo than by his approval of dmb. The offense as I have mentioned, even recently, comes from the way I see dmb and the AWGI's approach turning the MoQ away from being a metaphysics that directly engages and enters into the flow of modern thinking. I see him moving it backwards toward some ancient ways of seeing (i.e. the perennial philosophy, philosophical mysticism...) that are valuable in some vague sense but next to useless for any kind of present day application outside of stress management. In a recent example I said something to the effect that the MoQ ought to be able to anticipate something like AI or some of the other things I mentioned from the transhumanism summit. This got taken to mean I was down on Pirsig for not being psychic when in fact what I was getting at was that if the MoQ is seen in the right light, things like AI and nanotechnology are not platypi. They should not present any challenge to the MoQ rather the MoQ should help us accommodate such novelties without a problem. In fact I see one of the greatest challenges of our age as the rapid revolutions in thinking and understanding that happen all the time in the modern world. With the right metaphysics we ought to be able to take these changes in concepts and consciousness in stride rather than having some kind of intellectual revolution going on every six months or so. Furthermore I think this is critical because by all accounts the pace of change is speeding up not slowing down. I fear the wistful thinking about the glories of the past or a luddite approach to technology and change are not very effective ways of dealing with experience as it presents itself and I think hitching the MoQ wagon to ancient dead horses is a sure fire way to remain antiquated without even bothering to spin your wheels. The mystery to me has always been why anyone would think this is a good plan. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
