I wonder if Obama and DMB would be so absolutist about religious freedom being "unshakable" if a religion practiced human sacrifices?. Or encouraged "honor" killings? Or treated women as chattel. Not too "intellectually" justifiable if you ask me --.an example of tolerance as a moral imperative run amok.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:20 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]>wrote: > > ... the Declaration of Independence .. freed intellect and DQ from > political repression, leading directly to freedom of religion as an > individual right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution. ...Unfortunately we > are living the "social nightmare" brought on by 100 years of "intellectual" > control of society, beginning with Wilson. > > > > President Obama threw his support behind a controversial proposal to build > an Islamic center and mosque near New York's ground zero, saying Friday that > "Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in > this country.""That includes the right to build a place of worship and a > community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with > local laws and ordinances," Obama said at a White House Iftar dinner > celebrating the Islamic holy month of Ramadan. ...Obama, who said he was > speaking both as a citizen and as president, invoked the attacks of Sept. > 11, 2001, which critics of the Islamic center cite as the main reason for > preventing its construction."We must all recognize and respect the > sensitivities surrounding the development of lower Manhattan," Obama said, > according to his prepared remarks. "The 9/11 attacks were a deeply traumatic > event for our country.""The pain and suffering experienced by those who lost > loved ones is unimaginable," he continued. "So I understand the emotions > that this issue engenders. Ground Zero is, indeed, hallowed ground."But > Obama argued that American ideals and the Constitution demanded that the > project proceed."This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom > must be unshakable," he said. "The principle that people of all faiths are > welcome in this country, and will not be treated differently by their > government, is essential to who we are. The writ of our Founders must > endure."The proposed Islamic center has provoked vocal opposition from some > families of 9/11 victims and other groups. Nearly 70 percent of Americans > oppose the plan, according to CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll released > Wednesday. > > Did you catch that salient contrast? > "religious freedom must be unshakable,.. The principle ..is essential to > who we are." > > "Nearly 70 percent of Americans oppose the plan..." > > From Lila, Chp. 24: > "What passed for morality within this crowd was a kind of vague, amorphous > soup of sentiments known as "human rights." You were also supposed to be > "reasonable." What these terms really meant was never spelled out in any way > that Phaedrus had ever heard. You were just supposed to cheer for them. > "He knew now that the reason nobody ever spelled them out was nobody ever > could. In a subject-object understanding of the world these terms have no > meaning. There is no such thing as "human rights." There is no such thing as > moral reasonableness. There are subjects and objects and nothing else. > "This soup of sentiments about logically nonexistent entities can be > straightened out by the Metaphysics of Quality. It says that what is meant > by "human rights" is usually the moral code of intellect-vs. -society, the > moral right of intellect to be free of social control. Freedom of speech; > freedom of assembly, of travel; trial by jury; habeas corpus; government by > consent—these "human rights" are all intellect-vs.-society issues. According > to the Metaphysics of Quality these "human rights" have not just a > sentimental basis, but a rational, metaphysical basis. They are essential to > the evolution of a higher level of life from a lower level of life. They are > for real." > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
