[Platt] Seems to me Krimel engages in many sarcastic personal attacks against DMB in this post that are totally unnecessary, such as "Rather than engage the issues raised he slaps on the label SOM and "Presto" no need to read, no need to engage the issue, time to just sit back and feel self-righteous."
[Krimel] I thought this post was aimed specifically at the issue of rhetorical style over substance. It specifically target the abundance of the former and lack of the later that characterizes Dave mode of discourse. I did include my own perceptions of the effects of this triumph of style over substance but if you wanted to present an example my own excesses in this respect I think this would have made your point more strongly: > [Krimel] > I picture him saying this while polishing his Foster Grant wraparounds > simultaneously grinding a Marlboro filter beneath his Chuck Taylors; > Bohemian ironic affections trapping him in the amber of the 50s. Refusing > the new millennium and feeling really good about it. After all color TV is > just a fad. I mean really what was the point of that? [Platt] Certainly DMB can take care of himself and needs no help from me in his defense. [Krimel] I'm not convinced that he couldn't use some help but I doubt if he is interested in yours. [Platt] Nor do I hold myself out as a paragon of virtue. [Krimel] Well said. We finally agree on something. [Platt] But, isn't this the sort of rhetoric Horse has asked us to avoid? Is there any excuse for slamming someone for a difference of opinion? [Krimel] It is a source of constant mystery to me that I have never be threatened with expulsion from this group. I would have thrown me out a long time ago. But slamming disagreements is what we do here. What other point is there to this forum? I don't think Horse's intent is to dictate the style of dissent anymore than I think that slamming the someone's style is necessarily slamming them personally. In fact I don't think this listserve would be worth reading if everyone played nice-nice. It is the drama and violence that give it flavor and character. Outrage and tirades are the car chase scenes of this genre. Or are you just jockeying for a position as assistant moderator so you can tattle on everyone else? I mean you got note sent home to mother why shouldn't everyone else. I am kind of disappointed that your bogus goading of Horse while clearly intended to produce a threat of dismissal has yet to do so. Those banned and those threatened with being banned and those who have turned tail an run under threat of being banned are a mixed group. But maybe they share some common bond of honor among thieves or something like that. I could print out my personal warning and hang it on the refrigerator next to my "Vanity of vanities all is vanity..." Bible quote-of-the-day with my custom made WWBS (What Would Bob Say) refrigerator magnet. But I can assure you that threat/warning or no threat/warning I will return to lurking soon. Perhaps not soon enough to suit you and I am guessing it will be in my own good time. [Platt] Is civility dead? [Krimel] Was it ever really breathing? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
