David T to dmb:

He further claims that all need for "faith" is stricken from his system.
Please explain to me how this, ultimately unknowable and indefinable
quality, does not require just as much faith as belief in any God. I'm not
saying that it might not be a good thing to do, just you must have James'
"will to believe" and ultimately this boils down to faith.

Andre:
I feel a bit drawn into this because of your response to dmb's, David. My 
simple response to this post is Mr. Pirsig's : what 'stuff' gets you up out of 
bed in the morning?



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