Hi Andre,
I was only joking, braking the field of tension, ..
Personally i think not only in the MOQ, or in Pirsig's work or message,
everything is a pattern of value.
Every fish, every plant , every flower, the air we breathe, the soil we walk
on, I am completely convinced that all are patterns
of value, If you allow me to add, But only in my own opinion, They all are
patterns of value because they all support life as we
expirience it,observe it, even the observing is a pattern of value ,Being
part of all the patterns.

David Bohm calls them patterns of preference, they exist even in the atoms
and particle's, in the oceans, the lands, the molecule's
Every single one of them is supportive to life, ie,responding to quality,
having quality.
There are no objects or subjects, nor patterns without quality.(Pirsig).

i'm convinced this is so..
They all support life, expierience,intellect, they support all parts of the
Giant.Quality is the engine running the universe(imho)

But if i go to the dokter , I ask for a consult, not for a pattern of value.

Yes , my friend from Holland, streetwise talk , so to speak....But my hart
lives in the Giant.


I was observing the formation of the government in the Netherlands,
difficult, Wilders is jumping on the wagon, same patterns
are happening in Belgium, But the will for separatism here is moving towards
the extreme, i think Belgium is becoming a
worn-out whore, a mummificationappearance of the dark middle ages.
But let us not speak of wilders, he is contaminating our quality.

Silently i hope you remember Toon Hermans, Freek De Jonghe, Bram Vermeulen,
the conference's on old years evening
in the old days, I hope you still remember the good times,..".Neerlands hoop
in bange dagen.".
I still cherish the material they provided,...

difficult to find nowedays.
Greetz, Adrie



2010/9/28 Andre Broersen <[email protected]>

>  Marsha asked Adrie:
> And what is gravity?
>
> Adrie:
> Nobody knows
>
> To which Marsha speculated:
> A reified I-don't know?
>
> To which Adrie responds:
> arglmpfff!!
>
> Andre:
> (this must be a belgian dialect of some sort)
>
> In the MOQ gravity is an inorganic pattern of value.
>
> Taoist writings sometimes refer to it as yin.
>
> (...now wait for Marsha's next question!!!...and I'll give you some dutch
> dialect...of some sort)
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