Stephen Hawking/mlodinov, the Grand design "There is no picture or theory-independant concept of reality."
"In other words, if you see a herd of zebras fighting for a spot in the parking garage, it is because there really is a herd of zebras fighting in the parking garage, all other observer who look will measure the same properties, and the herd will have those properties whether anyone observes them or not, in philosophy that belief is called realism.(*)1" -------------------- (** perfect interpretation of the Copenhagen agreement, staying away from was in or out reality, only talking about the properties of the reality spoken of , not reality itself.**) Adrie. now Pirsig in Coplestons annotations. "I think that in philosophy when you make a statement, you should let it rise or fall as it is tested against reality. You should not make a statement and then fudge a little here and make an exception there and bend of meaning elsewhere in order to accommodate objections as they come in." ----------------------------------------- No comment , speaks for himself/itself. some comments He (Hawking) makes a very nice Mercatormaps South-Pole analogy, a South pole/pole analogy, and a very congruent analogy for the iron filings, all used by Pirsig what? 20 years earlier? The Grand Desing to declare philosophy a dead end, and showing to be a Pirsigacolite at the same time,<< great. *I blaim the stolen parts on Mlodinov(Adrie) If somebody wants to read the book , i have the pdf, just ask. real goodie, stunning quality, very sharp on Feynman's patterns. greetz, Adrie -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
