Hi Mark, We had much in common before and now even more. I, too, suffered a nervous breakdown years ago over a conflict of values that had potential devastating effect on my life. It was deep enough to require 22 shock treatments and hospitalization for three months. So I can relate to Pirsig's experience and like him, have worked to understand the underlying premises which affected me and why they turned out to be so self-destructive. Needless to say, his passage to higher understanding and sharing it in his books has led me to answers I never could have attained on my own. The experience proved to me the delusions S-O critical thinking can so easily create by it's infinite ability to weasel around any issue to justify a preconceived conclusion. The evidence of its shortcomings are everywhere, most recently in yesterday's U.S. election, but most notably in a highly educated Germany populace electing a Adolf Hitler. Probably the most egregious shortcoming of SOM is when it appeals to values without having the slightest idea of what its talking about.
But, I digress. I just wanted to say, "You rock!" Platt. . On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:44 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:19 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Platt, > > > Thank you for the proposal, good idea. I will review my posts from the > recent to back when I was posting from my aol account. If nothing else it > may bring clarity to myself. Much of my writing could be termed "automatic > writing". That is, it stems from an awareness of the moment which I then > try to transcribe into words, hopefully logically, but that is up to the > interpreter. As such, sometimes I learn something from rereading my own > posts. Strange I know. A summary could be analogous to Phaedrus > collecting > thoughts on cards and then shuffling them continuously to make sense of > things. > > In terms of Phaedrus, I also went through a temporary breakdown in the > early > eighties. It was not destructive enough for shock therapy, and I did have > a > community which supported me at the time. However, at the root of it was > serious questioning which resulted in a complete dissociation from any firm > footing in reality as I was used to. It was all quicksand without > grounding. The creation of certain premises that I accepted as true, > allowed rebuilding. The notion of everything being an analogy can have > destabilizing consequences, if one is not ready for it. However, it is in > the presentation of such analogies and their acceptance, that we coexist. > Our coexistence is based on agreement, and such agreement has no basis > outside our own communication. We create a world of knowledge as a result > of some Quality stimulus. Had to be there to understand, perhaps. > > Thus my insistence on lateral analogies for the expansion of the concept of > Quality. The power of the word is somewhat limited and limiting as we know > through discussion of SOM. If I choose, I can view the world free of SOM, > converting that to discussion is the hard part. Just another jumble in my > head I suppose. > > Cheers, > Mark > > Hi Mark, > > Sorry but I missed a lot of what you say you covered. Can you repeat > your > > analogies and insights on a single page in summary form without > > compromising > > your thoughts? Someone once said, "If you can't write your idea on the > > back of > > business card, it's not a good idea." Probably an exaggeration, but it > > forces > > an Occam approach, like Pirsig's summary of the MOQ -- "Some things are > > better > > than others." > > > > Any sort of brief summary would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Platt > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
