Zam, Page 219 quote "The followers of Heraclitus insisted the immortal priciple was change and motion. But Parmenides'disciple, Zeno,proved trough a series of paradoxes that any perception of motion and change is illusory. Reality had to be motionless."end.
------------------------------ ---nothing changed comment, already here in zam Pirsig recognised that Zeno made a capital mistake. reality cannot be motionless. from this moment on, Pirsig will fight this static interpretation in all of his following work. What was Zeno's mistake? well this, "proved trough a series of paradoxes that any perception...etc" The error is a false observation from Zeno,a contaminated one, and Pirsig recognised it. He is dealing with it in the quote from the moq and time i presented, But in the metaphysiks of Quality itself he is shredding this to pieces totally. We have to pay attention , Mark, there are no unimportant details. "Attention", the bird says.. 2010/11/7 118 <[email protected]> > Hi Andrie, > > > > > > > > [Adrie] > >> Quoting you , Marsha, in the article time and space are tools of the > mind > >> as in your abstraction of it, i hate to say it, but yes i was reading > the > >> article > >> and your interpretation here is limping truly, > >> this is the correct sentence in the article. > >> > >> " > >> In biocentrism, space and time are forms of animal intuition. They're > >> tools > >> of the mind and thus don't exist as external objects independent of > >> life""(end.) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Speculation, hm , nope, hypothetical models are hypothetical models > >> > >> Zeno and Lanza are on the speculative run. > >> > > > > [Mark] > > Adrie, so what's your point? Are you backpeddaling to things that have > > already been agreed on? I believe a personal answer to Marsha's > questions > > is appropriate without hiding under somebody's skirt. There is no sense > of > > any knowledge coming from your post. It is dismissive and arrogant, in > my > > opinion. Marsha has been doing this a little longer than you. > > > > Your crutches are not working properly. Have them looked into, please. > > > > Mark > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
