To use the words of Pirsig, good,good,good,....good good,good. Zeno was a paradox-stitcher Yes,Dave, what a superb abstraction this is,thanks! you rock , dude.
(then he nailed her)oops. 2010/11/9 david buchanan <[email protected]> > > > dmb chimes in with an edited rerun: > > Since hammers so loudly and conspicuously hit their targets, I wonder if > Heidegger picked the image as an intentional parody of Zeno's paradox. I > think the paradox should be used to get at the difference between the > continuous flow of time as we experience it and the discrete increments with > which we conceptualize and measure time. (This paradox basically says that > motion is an illusion, because a loosed arrow will never reach its target. > And it never gets there because it travels half of the distance in half the > time, and then half again and again forever.) In other words, the point of > this absurdity is not to deny motion an an illusion. The point is to expose > the limits of our conceptualizations. > > This "problem" or paradox arises only because of the way we divide and > measure things and the guy with an arrow through his head will tell you that > arrows certainly DO reach their targets. If he can't tell you, it's only > because he has an arrow through his head. The point (pun intended) of this > idea - or at least one of the points - is to say there is an important > distinction between engagement and reflection, between direct experience and > the concepts that follow. (Although somehow it seems that it's possible to > be so engaged even in reflection. It seems you can lose yourself in thought > the way you can lose yourself in motorcycle repair or hammering or painting > or anything else.) I'm thinking Heidegger picked the image of hammering, at > least partly, because its so repetitive. Nails are fasteners and they're > used to construct things. That's what concepts do too. > > "That was why the Quality that Phaedrus had arrived at in the classroom had > seemed so close to Plato's Good. Plato's Good was TAKEN from the > rhetoricians. Phaedrus searched, but could find no previous cosmologists who > had talked about the Good. That was from the Sophists. The difference was > that Plato's Good was a fixed and eternal and unmoving Idea, whereas for the > rhetoricians it was not an Idea at all. The Good was not a FORM of reality. > It was reality itself, ever changing, ultimately unknowable in any kind of > fixed, rigid way." paperback Bantam ZAMM 342 > > Thus, Zeno explained to his lover through logic and math and passionate > kisses galore how cupid's arrow could never reach his heart. > > Then he nailed her. > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
