Mark said to dmb:
...And the quote you provided supports my contention. Yes, static
representations destroy Theism. I have stated this before. The paragraph is
towards religion, I have said that as well. The cat and dog metaphor is
exactly what is going on here, and this is supposed to be philosophy not
priesthood. Are you disturbed by my presence here, unpredictable and
uncontrollable? Are you a bishop of some kind? You are subscribing to static
interpretations of MOQ, not me. I wonder why you used that quote.
dmb says:
And I wonder why you always delete that quote from your responses to it. If
you're disputing it and asking questions about it, why remove it? Are we trying
to determine what Pirsig thinks or not? So why do Pirsig's comments disappear
from your posts? That is no way to conduct an open and honest conversation
about the MOQ. This is not dogmatism. It's just common sense and good manners.
And no, static representations do not DESTROY religion. Religion IS a static
representation. Rituals are nothing if not static. Institutions are nothing if
they're not static. How can there be any kind of ism without static patterns?
The philosophical picture known as the MOQ can't exist except as a set of
static patterns. That's what metaphysics must be or there isn't any
metaphysics. But the term "Dynamic Quality" refers to experience itself, not a
thing or an idea or a set of gestures or symbols that refer to it. I think what
happens is that the mystic, because he knows this experience directly, sees
THROUGH the rituals and symbols and metaphors. The static patterns of religion
become transparent like glass and, as everyone know, window are for looking
through and not for looking at. Instead of seeing the light that comes through
the window, theists worship the glass. It's like trying to drink the faucet
instead of the water. It's like eating the menu.
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