On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:24 PM, 118 wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Finally, we have the translation by Wallace, which he goes on to explain >> in >>> his own words. As such, it is difficult to really know what Buddha was >>> thinking or trying to say. Needless to say, translations such as found >> in >>> the Bible are to be expected since a philosophy or religion must be >>> pertinent to the vernacular or understanding of the time. The underlying >>> awareness may remain constant, but the thoughts and words are always >>> changing. >>> >>> The use of emptiness is a good one. The sole arising of emptiness can be >>> questioned and interpreted in its absoluteness. >>> >>> I know less than you, >> >> Marsha: >> There is nothing to know and no one to know it. Who knows less? >> >> Within the radical experience, the meditative state, the direct NOW, there >> is >> no right, no wrong, no intellectual competence, no translations, no claims, >> no divine one, no opinion, no people, no preaching, no words, no >> interpretation, >> no philosophy, no religion too, no me, no you, and no Buddha. >> >> If you do not like B. Alan Wallace's words, that's okay. I doubt that he >> will be >> upset, but I don't know for sure. >> >> >> [Mark] >> > It seems we have a different interpretation of knowing.
I did state I was talking of experience within a meditative state. > For me it is coming to agreement with oneself as to the nature of things. > Often this come from agreeing with others since two brains may provide > more than one. One can know something and then change their minds > and know something else. Such is the nature of man. This speaks to how to function conventionally. I do obey the traffic laws, and agree that the sun comes up in the morning. ;-) > Your sense of knowing seems a bit more mystical and as such cannot really be > discussed. What more is there to knowing than realizing and accepting? I > am open to other definitions of knowing. Mine takes places within the > brain, and is fed by that which lies behind and beyond. My way of knowing seems to take place in the mind/consciousness. > I have not problem with Wallace. It always takes me a while to warm to > someone. This is my problem not his. > > Hey, since you liked my last two music selections and seem to have an open > mind for these things. A group that I have listened to for years is called > Rachels. They have been in deep hibernation for a while now. Their last 3 > albums were good. The Sea and The Bells was an interpretation of Naruda's > poems. Some may be on youtube, I have the albums. Stay away from their > collaboration with Matmos. The song Water From the Same Source is one of > the more accessible of theirs. Could be Yo-yo Ma, but it's not. Check that > one out. I'll check them out. Thanks. > > Mark Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
