Steve said:
... your comment about driving you crazy was completely irrelevant ... Such 
comments don't need to be inserted. They just create impediments to 
understanding rather than greater understanding. Now that I provided this 
demonstration do you see what a dick you are for saying I am driving you crazy?

dmb says:
No, not at all. I was asking you to address an apparent contradiction, trying 
to clarify what your denials could mean and where I got the idea that you were 
framing things in a certain way. It's not irrelvant. It's about something. I 
don't see how that is dickish in the least, let alone the act of a "total 
dick". I'm saying that you were unfairly insulting me and your response to that 
is just to unfairly insult me some more. And just for the record, I think your 
denials about being pissed off are contradicted by the use of such strong 
language. I also that "total dick" is a bomb whereas "you're driving me crazy" 
is a slap on the wrist - or something like that - and any reasonable person 
would say those two phrases are obviously disproportional. You're escalating 
the hostility way beyond proportion. Next time, why not just say, "hey, I don't 
appreciate the way you put it but I just meant to say...". 

Look, I really don't understand this reaction at all. If I tell you that I'm 
frustrated, it's not because I want to share my feelings with you and I 
certainly don't think you ought to cater to my feelings anyway. What I'd like - 
and I think it's only reasonable - is some effort to address my concern, some 
effort to address the source of my frustration, some effort to grapple with the 
substance of the matter; what I'm calling a false dilemma.

We already covered the idea that everyone in question rejects the 
correspondence theory and I just posted an explanation as to why I also reject 
the epistemological notion that "it's language all the way down". I tried to 
explain how, epistemologically speaking, its NOT language all the way down. 
That's the third option I was trying to get at when our little dispute about 
false dilemmas and dickishness began. I hope you'll take that up and otherwise 
de-escalate the hostility.                                          
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