Wizard: Zooming in may detract from the big picture, but zooming out blurs the details. In either case it is important to stay focused.
Marsha: Stop projecting. The answer is yes, no and all of the above. On Mar 21, 2011, at 6:21 AM, Jan-Anders wrote: > Hi Dan > > Sorry for the delay. > > Methaphysics can be considered as looking on something at a distance, to get > an overview or an abstract map showing the outlines of the landscape. RMP > used this method to show that there is a set of 4 levels with different > characteristics. Inorganic, organic, social and intellectual. > > The Methaphysical of Quality is much about this perspective to understand > what creates goodness and badness. There is much more to say and that is one > of the basic fundamentals for this forum. > > We can look at the evilness of money like this: > Take a team of hockeyplayers. The Coach is responsible for which talented > players he want to have in his winning team. The players are very specialized > in their different roles in the team and rely on the coach for the overall > strategy. No player is more important than the other. The goalkeeper may be a > hero but he can't make it alone. The importance of the coach is very > important to concentrate the individual players so their total force is > pointed towards the goal and not being contraproductive. > > We need inorganic materials for our wealth, just as biologic and social > materials. The society also need money and legislation in force. > > I think evilness is when there is a bad or no distance to the whole and > isolated sectors tend into suboptimizing, where one of the levels are > favourized. People who find one single working truth and treat this as the > one and only, acting without a perspective and respect for the rest of the > surounding world. To much attention to one level can be evil. > > There are thousands of examples of this kind of evil selfishness. Whats the > environmental movement other than advocating for a broader and more equal > perspective on the balance between inorganic and organic? Accusing physicians > and chemistry professors for having a one-sided view on their own expertice. > > The "philosophy" of Ayn Rand is another good example of this evilness. Yes, > we need talented enterprisers who knows how to build and organize people at > work and managing business. But that doesn't mean that other sectors like the > Fire Department or the Police in the society are of less importance. Ayn > Rands mistake is exactly the same as the one soviet communists made when they > tried to eradicate the noble class in Russia. You can be very correct in a > limited sector of facts but without the metaphysical distance, you're lost > anyway. > > I can see that this is sometimes Marshas problem when she is sometimes losing > the distance. > > I think RMPs metaphor on climbing up on the mountain is also about this. To > get an overview over the landscape. > > Distance is also crucial to be able to laugh at things and to create weird > movies like the Monty Python's Flying Circus. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0amC660MOk > > I can really feel the pain inside these poor roman soldiers. > > J-A > > Dan wrote 2011-03-19 22.58: >>> >JA: >>> > I see money and economy systems as pure intellectual matter. To be a good >>> > economic man you must loose your social bonds and act rational. >> Dan: >> That seems right. But what about the love of money? Do you see that as >> the root of all evil? And if so, how do we reconcile being a good >> economic man with loving money? >> >> Thank you, >> >> Dan > ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
