Hi Mark and Dan
The evolution is about processes with different patterns.
At the inorganic level, patterns are atoms cycles of spinning electrons
and viscosity...
At the organic level patterns are biological processes like germs,
fertility, DNA, RNA, cell structures and so on that use the pattenrs
from the inorganic level.
At the social level patterns are organized biologic process like
Germans, Catholics, human tribes, indian cultures that use and control
the biological patterns for their own benefit.
At the intellectual level we have ideas and businesses, citys, companys,
TV-channels and professional ice hockey teams that use the social
patterns for their own benefit.
They all have quality. They all have to balance between it's mass,
pattern and value to other processes. The process must keep on so that
the sum of the three is about 1. Just enough in all three aspects.
Quality is there, you got in in your hands already.
Grab something that is more than nothing and not to big. (mass)
What is it? (pattern)
What is the use of it? (value)
How could it be better?
J-A
mark wrote 2011-03-27 06.03:
Hi Dan,
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Dan Glover<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> I don't care if you're a trained biologist or not (I am seriously
> leaning towards the latter). You obviously don't know much about the
> MOQ when you make statements like this:
[Mark]
No, Dan, I am not asking you to care, this is simply a discussion of
MoQ and the terms used therein.
>
>>Mark previously:
>> I just seems to me that we are using the word Evolution as a catch
>> phrase for something that it is not. ?It may seem like it relates to
>> the sciences, but it most certainly does not. ?The term provides
>> practical awareness in biology, but I do not see it in MoQ.
>
> Dan:
>
> How can you say this? It makes no sense whatsoever. The four levels
> share an evolutionary history as described by Robert Pirsig in LILA.
> We are not using evolution as a catch phrase and if you think so I
> suggest a refresher course in whatever school of biology you did your
> training.
[Mark]
Dan, if I may be so bold, you say absolutely nothing in your response.
The topic of this thread was evolution. My question was what do You
mean by evolution. I am asking you for your opinion. What do you
mean by "share an evolutionary history"? You can choose not to
respond, but if you do, answer the question and don't just become
emotional. Perhaps it is beneath you, so humor me. If you had read
the rest of my post besides just that which you responded to, then
maybe you would have understood my position. Taking a just a part to
respond to is immoral, imho.
>
> Arrrgggh!! This is so frustrating!
[Mark]
Sorry, I find MoQ interesting, especially when we can discuss it. If
you are done, then I can see your frustration. It's like completing
an equation in math that people don't understand, and you must try to
explain it.
Humbly yours,
Mark
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