Marsha:
Just as in this quote 'Dynamic' stands for 'Dynamic Quality.' I'm sure you
understand this dmb; this is for Adrie's syntaxis sake.
"Moreover, Nagarjuna (1966, p.251) shares Pirsig’s perception that the
indeterminate (or Dynamic) is the fundamental nature of the conditioned (or
static):"
(McWatt, Anthony, 'An Introduction to Robert Pirsig's Metaphysics of
Quality', 2005, p102)
On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:40 AM, david buchanan wrote:
>
> David Harding said to dmb:
>
> Is this Dynamic which you speak of Dynamic Quality?
>
> dmb says:
> Yes. "The experiential flux as it is felt and lived" is an alternative way to
> say "the primary empirical reality" or "pre-intellectual experience". DQ is
> the immediate flux of life or direct experience prior to the
> conceptualizations and definitions we subsequently add.
>
>
>
>
> dmb previously:
>>> In the MOQ empirical reality is Dynamic and metaphysics can only ever be
>>> secondary and conceptual - and that means metaphysical ideas are
>>> intellectual static quality. This is approximately the opposite of your
>>> claim.
>>> Before philosophy was born in ancient Greece only the gods were eternal. As
>>> philosophy was first forming, one of the main questions asked what was
>>> eternal in the affairs of mortals. That's when guys like Plato started
>>> inventing the eternal fixed Forms, one of which was the Form of the Good.
>>> This is Pirsig's central complaint and his main task is to undo that
>>> encapsulation and subordination of Quality, to remove the fixity and
>>> rigidity and changelessness that Plato imposed on it and reassert the
>>> primacy of the experiential flux as it is felt and lived.
>
>
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