Mark,  

Many people do harbor a deep-seated sense/belief/assumption/feeling that 
given an identical situation, they could have chosen to act differently.  But 
the 
assumption of having a free-will, of being a free agent, is but a pattern, and 
is 
not Ultimately Real.  imho 


Marsha 



On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:39 AM, 118 wrote:

> Let's get serious here.  This is an MoQ forum, we should be talking
> about the Quality of Free will.  I am tired of reading posts that are
> either copies, quotes, or plagiarisms of something that was said one
> year ago, or two hundred years ago.  I can forgive the newcomers, or
> the wannabys since they do not know better.  But some of these
> established Qists who do this deliberately to obfuscate the purpose of
> this forum and mislead the reader into thinking that something new is
> being developed in this world, is really unforgivable and immoral. If
> we are doing an Inquiry into morals, let's at least begin with
> ourselves.  Is it moral to present something as if it is your own
> idea, simply for the purposes of aggrandizement?  Is is moral to
> mislead and obfuscate for the deliberate purpose of denigrating the
> Metaphysics of Quality?  If Pirsig were still alive, he would go
> quickly back to his grave in disgust.   Is there not one of use that
> has the Values appropriate for promoting his metaphysics.  You guys
> (and gals) just make me sick.  Who amongst you is willing to rise
> above this petty and insignificant posturing?  Who amongst you is
> ready to stand for something real and enduring.  Please do not all
> raise your hands at once.  And stop cowering under that classroom desk
> afraid that I may pick on you.  Really!!
> 
> Mark
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