Hi Craig,

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:17 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> [Steve]
>> Dynamic Quality is what gets you off the hot stove before you ever _decide_ 
>> to
>> get off the hot stove...This is THE paradigmatic example
>> Pirsig uses to show what it means to follow DQ. I submit that this is
>> what we ought to think about in unpacking "to the extent that one
>> follows dynamic quality...one's behavior is free."

Craig:
> Back to my earlier example:
> Suppose we raise an infant in a controlled laboratory environment, where 
> there are
> surfaces of various temperature.  The infant will naturally recoil from 
> surfaces that
> are too cold or too hot.  Suppose that when the infant comes in contact with 
> surfaces
> in the range of 70-72 degrees F, that we immediately apply an electric shock.
> Eventually the infant will automatically recoil from surfaces in the 70-72 
> degree F
> range to avoid the electric shock it has learned will follow.  This is a 
> paradigmatic
> example of CONDITIONED behavior.


Steve:
I agree, but I'm not sure what your point is or how it relates free will.
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