On Sep 6, 2011, at 1:10 AM, Ham Priday wrote: > Hi Marsha and Joe -- > > On 9/5/11 5:50 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> Has anyone considered that that which is labled 'common sense' >> and 'logical' are social static patterns of value? Geez... > >
> A while back, acknowledging that "MoQ is ontologically indeterminate", Marsha > asked me if I could offer justification for Essentialism that is empirically > or philosophically stronger. I didn't answer at the time because it appeared > to be a rhetorical question. However, since the true nature of Reality is > implicated in this discussion, I'll go on record with the following statement: > > NOTHING can exist -- not Evolution or its "levels", not the material > universe, not Quality or the emotions, not Intellect or Experience, not even > the conscious Self -- in the absence of a Primary Source. I cite as my logic > for this premise the 'ex nihilo nihil fit' proposition of classical > philosophy, the empirical precept of 'first cause', and the metaphysical > principle that Heidegger formulated in the question "Why are there beings > rather than nothing?" > > Thanks to you both for giving me a reason to engage in this discussion. > > Essentially speaking, > Ham Hello Ham, Can you provide proofs for your premises? Of course not, because they are cultural constructs. I was't rejecting or accepting (Paying attention Ron?) formal logic, but offhand statements bemoaning what is and isn't logical, or what does or doesn't make sense are social (cultural) in nature. Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
