On Oct 27, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Steven Peterson wrote: > Hi Marsha, >
> Steve: > I think that's simply put and about right (that information is > Quality), What else could it be but Quality? > Steve continues: > and I think there is even more resonance to be unpacked > between information theory and the dq/sq split with what Gleick is > reporting about information theory as well as with what Matt just said > about meaning. Information is apparently measured or talked about in > terms of entropy, probability, patterns, and surprise. I've moved the book up to next in the pile, but I need first to finish up: 'Self, No Self?: Perspectives from Analytical, Phenomenological, and Indian Traditions.' So many subtle difference, and maybe more than I bargained for. > Steve: > In a message,if we know what is coming next, there is no information. > Meaning then comes as defiance of expectations. I haven't thought > nearly enough about it yet, but I think there are some ideas in The > Information > that would help sort out the chaos/dq/degeneracy/sq distinctions. Marsha: It might be over my head, but I'm curious to give it a try. Krimel said it was quite good and he also recommended Brian Christian’s 'The Most Human Human.' Marsha > > Best, > Steve > > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 8:07 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Steve, >> >> I must confess, I haven't gotten to Gleick's book yet and it has been a >> while since I heard the interview, so I really don't have anything to add >> concerning the book. I'm don't see a difference between information and >> Quality. Do you? >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 27, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Steven Peterson wrote: >> >>> Hi Marsha, >>> >>> I wanted to let you know that I am reading this book on your >>> recommendation. I think there is a lot to unpack here with regard to >>> information theory in relation to the MOQ, but I don't feel at all >>> equal to the task. I hope someone smarter than I am will give it a go. >>> Do you have any thoughts to share about information and Quality? >>> >>> Best, >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 8:46 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Here's an interesting radio interview with James Gleick concerning his new >>>> book 'The Information' >>>> >>>> >>>> "We can see now that information is what our world runs on: the blood and >>>> the fuel, the vital principle. It pervades the sciences from top to >>>> bottom, transforming every branch of knowledge. Information theory began >>>> as a bridge from mathematics to electrical engineering and from there to >>>> computing. What English speakers call “computer science” Europeans have >>>> long since known as informatique, informatica, and Informatik. Now even >>>> biology has become an information science, a subject of messages, >>>> instructions, and code. Genes encapsulate information and enable >>>> procedures for reading it in and writing it out. Life spreads by >>>> networking. The body itself is an information processor. Memory is stored >>>> not just in brains but in every cell. No wonder genetics bloomed along >>>> with information theory. DNA is the quintessential information molecule, >>>> the most advanced message processor at the cellular level—an alphabet and >>>> a code, 6 billion bits to form a human being. “What lies at the heart of >>>> every living thing is not a fire, not warm breath, not a ‘spark of life,’” >>>> declares the evolutionary theorist Richard Dawkins. “It is information, >>>> words, instructions. . . . If you want to understand life, don’t think >>>> about vibrant, throbbing gels and oozes, think about information >>>> technology.” The cells of an organism are nodes in a richly interwoven >>>> communications network, transmitting and receiving, coding and decoding. >>>> Evolution itself embodies an ongoing exchange of information between >>>> organism and environment." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://onpoint.wbur.org/2011/03/18/james-gleick >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
