Hi All, I thought Dave pulled out some good quotes earlier ... but first ...
When Marsha says "nothing other than" when relating DQ to SQ and vice-versa she seems to me to be simply reinforcing the monism. The split is conventional, important, useful, pragmatic, empirical - radically so even - but they are nevertheless fundamentally the same "stuff" - quality. They do not comprise different stuff. It's also one reason why "pattern" is a good word - the right (and not entirely original) word - different patterns in the same stuff, not different stuff. I also like the fact that pattern is unspecific / non-exclusive when it comes to its potential temporal as well as spatial dimensions - hence Marsha - often also won't let us forget the "ever changing" aspect either. Here was Dave's selection: "But although the four systems [ of static patterns] are exhaustive they are not exclusive. They all operate at the same time and in ways that are almost independent of each other. This classification of patterns is not very original, but the Metaphysics of Quality allows an assertion about them that is unusual. It says they are not continuous. They are discreet. They have very little to do with one another. Although each higher level is built on a lower one it is not an extension of that lower level. Quite the contrary ..." I think the "not" exclusive and "almost" independent are important qualifiers. The patterns are discrete, without simple one-way causal dependency - each has a life if its own - but they do comprise the same indefinable quality stuff. Regards Ian On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:11 AM, MarshaV <val...@att.net> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 19, 2012, at 7:42 PM, Horse <ho...@darkstar.uk.net> wrote: > >> "In this plain of understanding static patterns of value are divided into >> four systems: >> inorganic patterns, biological patterns, social patterns and intellectual >> patterns. They are >> exhaustive. That’s all there are. If you construct an encyclopaedia of four >> topics—Inorganic, >> Biological, Social and Intellectual—nothing is left out. No “thing,” that >> is. Only Dynamic >> Quality, which cannot be described in any encyclopaedia, is absent." >> (Lila) >> >> Is there anything in the above that you disagree with? >> >> Cheers >> >> Horse > > No Horse, nothing I disagree with. > > > Marsha > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
