David to Ant:
He wanted to define DQ as little as possible. Everyone knows what DQ is
when they experience it. The more we strangle it with static definitions
the more it isn't Dynamic Quality. This is why the majority of Lila is
spent talking about not Dynamic Quality but static quality.
Andre:
Hi David, Anthony,
I am reasonably okay with what you are arguing David but have my
reservations. I have asked this... or rather stated this...many times
before. I am so surprised at the attention DQ gets in lieu of sq.
It seems to me that, when Pirsig reflected upon the success of ZMM, the
'cult' book which 'made everyone feel good in the end' because of the
'happy ending' most posters here on this discuss still want a repeat of
that which they haven't found in LILA. They still want a happy goody
feely. And I think that that 'happy goody feely' came about because of
this mysterious thing called Quality which was left undefined. My point:
the happy goody feely was because it was undefined. People could imagine
all sorts of things when referring to Quality. They could let their
imagination run rampant whether it was on a motorcycle or lying in the
sun or having sex or reading a book or just being bored or stuck or
fucked up about something. In other words they had a ball... floating
three inches above the foot level.
I must stress that I do not count you amongst "them" but must suggest
that LILA brought everyone down to earth. The three inches disappeared
and people did not like it. Still high on ZMM there are our Marsha's and
Mark's and countless others who have come and gone here on this discuss
wanting to make something more of sq because DQ had let something loose
in their heads with which sq could not cope or rather which does not
reflect sq and cannot be reflected by sq. They really have a very hard
time accepting LILA because it does not meet their imaginations (up with
the daisies) or expectations (lift me four inches higher above foot level!)
Hence the silliness that is going on. The non-differentiation of DQ/sq,
the incomprehension at need of latching, the comments that Pirsig
doesn't know his own metaphysics, that Pirsig doesn't realize the
implications of what he has said etc etc.
I would simply say:... DQ...
Still pond
A frog jumps in
Plop!
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