Hi Ant, Thank you for your comments, and I am glad that I am "getting there". Although I am not quite sure where you have in mind. If you mean "thinking like you", then I take that as a compliment.
I only found one question that requires an answer in your comments: Mark previously: Yes, Pirsig wrote some good stuff, but none of it was new by any means. Ant McWatt comments: Not putting values ahead of subjects and objects in the empirical train of events wasn't a new idea? Then adding in LILA that these values are evolving and can be ordered in a moral framework? Where else have you read those two particular ideas (pre-Pirsig)? Mark: Well perhaps I can provide you with some education here. I would recommend you read Thomas Acquinas for some ideas of what has been done before within the moral framework. Then perhaps some of the sutas from Buddhism, which Pirsig draws heavily from. I am not sure if you are familiar with Husserl, or if you have read his works and dismiss him as not relevant. Before him there was David Hume of course, which you must have covered in your Ph.D. Let us not forget Parmenides and all those guys. Pythagorus draws heavily from Egyptian alchemy. And then there is the emeral tablet. We can discuss each of these things at length if you do not see the context they provide Pirsig for his "new interpretation". I would be most happy to share this knowledge with you if you are sincere. But perhaps I misread what you are saying by your question. If you could explain the following statement to me so that I can respond correctly I would appreciate it (humor me): "Not putting values ahead of subjects and objects in the empirical train of events" Also, what exactly do you mean by "evolving". If you are using the standard biological definition, then species evolve in response to environmental pressures. What would the pressures for the evolution of value be? This would seem to tend towards the religious. Perhaps you mean something else by "evolving". Please clarify. Thanks again, Mark Cheers, Mark > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
