[Tuukka] this is actually pretty interesting. We have contradictory ideas of what it means for the MOQ to manifest. I could say you find this manifestation to take place in the meta axis.
[Arlo] We don't have contrary ideas of what it 'means for the MOQ to manifest', Tuukka, the MOQ does not manifest, it IS a manifestation. It is Quality that 'manifests' as static patterns, not 'the MOQ'. The MOQ is an intellectual manifestation (pattern) **OF** Quality. A metatheory that proposes 'DQ/sq/MOQ' is an SOM attempt at resolving 'recursion' by holding that you can 'back out of the container'. You can't. Metatheories, like theories, are intellectual patterns. They may be more complex, in the way that a human body is more complex than an amoeba, but they are not a new level, and certainly NOT a new metaphysical 'primacy'. You continue to confuse "the metaphysics OF Quality" with "Quality", the menu for the 'food'. A rock is NOT a manifestation of "the MOQ", it is an inorganic pattern OF Quality, a manifestation of Quality. The MOQ is an intellectual pattern that tries to describe this process. That a book, or an idea, or a theory, can 'manifest' itself as a rock is not something I would consider to be useful as a theory in any way. I'm not sure what more I can say on this, Tuukka. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
