Hi Marsha, Metaphysics formats our experience of reality. Pirsig observed DQ/SQ in his experience. He observed that DQ/SQ described the experience of reality. Emotions are not thoughts like S/O. Emotions and thoughts differentiate reality, DQ/SQ.
It is difficult for me to accept that in a DQ/SQ format of metaphysics, DQ is unknowable. Indefinable is not unknowable. I want DQ to be experienced emotionally. This values indefinable emotions, in the DQ/SQ conception of metaphysics. I feel your statement: >>> There is nothing to say about DQ, the Ultimate Truth. It is indeterminate. >>> Do you not understand 'indivisible, undefinable and unknowable'? is confusing the indefinable with "unknowable" which would negate Pirsig's use of DQ in discriminating reality DQ/SQ. Emotions are perceived. They are conceived descriptively in metaphor and analogy. Joe On 5/31/12 1:14 PM, "MarshaV" <val...@att.net> wrote: > > Hi Joe, > > > > > Hi Joe, > > I consider perceptions to be experiences of the senses: seeing, tasting, > touching, smelling and hearing. Are you using the term to mean something > different? > > > Marsha > > > > On May 31, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Joseph Maurer <jh...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Hi Marsha and All, >> >> I want to consider the difference between emotional perception and >> intellectual conception. >> >> For myself emotional perception is DQ. There is no way to confine >> individualized emotional perceptions to a definition. Emotions stand alone. >> The DQ perception of evolving reality as levels in existence is indefinable. >> >> Intellectual conception SQ is perceived in a definable concept differing >> from the indefinable evolutionary perception of reality. The intellect is >> able to define evolution, static levels in existence. Remarkably people >> usually walk upright on two legs. >> >> Joe >> >> >> On 5/30/12 9:40 PM, "MarshaV" <val...@att.net> wrote: >> >>> There is nothing to say about DQ, the Ultimate Truth. It is indeterminate. >>> Do you not understand 'indivisible, undefinable and unknowable'? >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
