Hi Carl, Yes, I have seriously considered that Mark adopt's such a view, but it _his_ view using _his_ lens and _his_ rhetoric (_his analogy_). And _his_ judging others. I need not accept or reject _his_ need for 'truth' or 'meaning'. Nor do I need to accept plural, provisional, pragmatic static patterns of value as _being_ mainstream American Pragmatism. It could be interesting to enthusiastically explore, compare and contrast, but not see the MoQ trapped there.
Marsha On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:07 AM, "Carl Thames" <[email protected]> wrote: > Isn't this the key to the whole MOQ thing? Too many get caught up in the > good/bad dicotomy and end up on the hamster wheel of time. I don't know if > you realize it, but this is exactly what Mark has been talking about for some > time now. It's all about the lens through which you view experience. It's > not about the experience, the results of the experience, etc. > > Carl > >> Hi Ian, >> >> How to be a responsible and social being without climbing on a bandwagon? It >> boggles the mind. It may point to why the monk goes off into the woods. >> How to live where All is Goodness, while living within good-bad, good-bad, >> good-bad, good-bad, good-bad, good-bad patterns... My only way to remove >> from the dilemma is in mindfulness where it dissolves. But, but, but... >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 28, 2012, at 3:25 AM, Ian Glendinning <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Interesting indeed. >>> >>> Zizek also says "taking sides" is the problem. The bigger the issue >>> (global warming, banking crisis, religious fundamentalist terrorism >>> for example), the bigger this problem - where it is most humanly >>> natural to stand up and be counted on one side (or the other). >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:16 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Interesting... >>>> >>>> If you want the truth to stand clear >>>> before you, never be for or against. >>>> The struggle between "for" and "against" >>>> Is the mind's worst disease. >>>> (Sent-ts'an, 700CE) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5294 - Release Date: 09/27/12 > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
