I like the recounting of his experience on a mountaintop in Colorado
when Allen Ginsberg wrote about a fly buzzing his head as a
major impediment to enlightenment.

My  understanding of what monkey mind does to meditation 
 a difficult nut to crack, but know nothing about a solution
That I could actually benefit from two or three months of extreme meditation?
 Ingram's article is very attractive.

Here is a  prelude to Ginsberg's vision of suffering, which could have affected 
his search.

In the winter of 1941, when Allen was a junior in high school, his mother 
insisted that he take her to a therapist at a Lakewood,
New Jersey, rest home, a disruptive bus journey he described in his long 
autobiographical poem "Kaddish." Naomi Ginsberg spent most of the next fifteen 
years in mental hospitals, enduring the effects of electroshock treatments and 
a lobotomy before
her death at Pilgrim State Hospital in 1956. Witnessing his mother's mental 
illness had a traumatic effect on Ginsberg, who wrote poetry about her unstable 
condition for the rest of his life. 

I think the recent events in Connecticut gives particular correspondence with 
much of the public view of mental illness.
But, can think of none other who could write about it as A.G. did.
Can anyone else discuss the matter completely free of some bias.  However much 
they try?  
But, I  hope Kaddish  had a point of redemption for humanity anyway.

Thank you for the article about Ingram, 
Who woulda' thunk it, in Alabama....it is well written and leads one to have 
hope that monkey mind can be defeated.

I hope Persig's search led to similar solutions for his son, where the authors' 
own suffering seems to find meaning.
I want to say I understand it, having a son myself, but only know it is one 
thing to own our suffering, and to own another's
suffering is different still


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