As if.. Ian Glendinning <[email protected]> wrote:
>Ad Hominem attack alert. > >Dave said to Ian ... ego-driven nonsense etc ... > >Ian > >On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:22 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]> >wrote: >> >> Ian said: >> Strawman alert. Who suggested Pirsig wasn't careful (even skilled and >> poetic) with his words? >> >> >> dmb says: >> Okay. But what about the rest of it? Don't you have any reply to this >> part..... >> >> >> "Definitions are the FOUNDATION of reason. You can't reason without them." >> (Emphasis is Pirsig's. ZAMM, page 214.) "A metaphysics must be divisible, >> definable and knowable, or there isn't any metaphysics." (Pirsig in Lila, >> page 64.) >> >> >> Now, has anyone ever said - or even implied - that dictionary definitions >> are the end point for the MOQ or anything else. No, of course not. This is a >> straw man, one that interprets the basic of demands of intellectual quality >> (coherence, logical consistency, etc.) as something that's beneath them. The >> implied claim, it seems, is that the contradictory use of terms is not a >> very basic failing but quite the opposite. It is above and beyond words, Ian >> claims, because "evolution involves people using the language beyond >> existing understood explicit meanings". >> >> >> You see how that works? The use of contradictory word salads isn't a problem >> or an error to be criticized, it's above all that stupid static stuff like >> definitions and metaphysics. Only a pedant is interesting in stuff like >> that, right? Nope, I really that that's just ego-driven nonsense wherein >> those accused of very basic errors reply with a transparently self-serving >> dismissal of the criticism. >> ....Does anyone really think they are too deep, too mystical or too special >> to be bothered with the basic demands of intellectual quality? You're too >> evolved to be bothered with definitions? That sounds like the ego is doing >> the talking, not intellect. >> >> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
