Horse had said:
What I fail to understand about static patterns that are 'ever-changing' is the process by which they change. An example: When I was about 18 years old I bought a BSA Starfire motorcycle. It was an awful heap of crap and I spent more time fixing it than I did riding it! I now own a Moto-Guzzi T3 California which I have spent more time riding than repairing. In between I have owned a multitude of motorcycles. Am I to take the view that my Starfire has, somehow, changed (in effect, morphed) into my T3 - or, as is more likely, that over the years I have owned different motorcycles, starting with a Starfire and ending up, now, with a T3? Each of them is a set of static patterns that equate to motorcycles (more or less!!!) but each one has been a different set of patterns. In the same way, all other static patterns in my life, from inorganic to intellectual, relate to my experience but are unique and discrete. They relate to my experience in that I have experienced and, having experienced, a new set of static patterns then emerges from that experience. Each new set of patterns are unique but related to each other by way of my experience - not just an initial set of patterns changing/morphing from one form to another. That would have to be classed as magic, not Metaphysics! [Ron says] When we are enjoying a beautiful spring day (or a motorcycle) Bob Pirsig explains that what we are enjoying (experiencing) is partly a priori (static). "Quality is shapeless, formless, indescribable. To see shapes and forms is to intellectualize. Quality is independent of any such shapes and forms. The names, the shapes and forms we give Quality depend only partly on the Quality. They also depend partly on the a priori images we have accumulated in our memory. We constantly seek to find, in the Quality event, analogues to our previous experiences. If we didn't we'd be unable to act. ." [RMP] I think it is important to note and emphasize the line "We constantly seek to find, in the Quality event, analogues to our previous experiences." "If we did'nt we'd be unable to act." or experience for that matter, This is not subverting the primacy of DQ (as the strawman that Dan submitts) but it should underscore the necessity of Static Quality in order to "experience" a motorcycle, motorcycle ride or a fine spring morning. .. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
