X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>djh responds:
>I disagree. As mentioned to dmb - *huge* chunks of Lila (most of the book) -
>would never be written if we spend no time understanding folks values. What
>people value - what's a good life - living a good life - that's the whole
>point of philosophy.
>
>{Ron}
>We ARE talking about folks values, their intellectual values. The aim of
>living a good life is developing sound critical thinking skills
>and that includes clarity and precision in thought and discussion. We can have
>a good discussion if you want to explore what
>it means to "live a good life". I suspect what this discussion is turning
>towards is exactly this topic and I think it would clarify
>things alot to make this a thread subject and dialecticly expand on it.
>Dialectics is a whole nother matter which I'd like to
>pursue and I'll do that in my next comment below.
>
>
>
>The goal of dialectic was, and still is to philosophic minds, to reach aporia.
>It is a critial thinking skill that orginated in Elea that
>was taught to Socrates by Protagoras I believe, I could be wrong, but the
>point is that it was a method to gain clarity and precision
>by logically reducing prejudices and assumptions by argueing to the best of
>your abilites, both sides of an arguement. Even though
>all your values stand pro to one side of the disagreement. It was a call to
>unbiasly consider both sides of an arguement with equal
>consideration. It aims at the highest quality, and that is the true, the
>highest value, the highest good.
>Read the Socratic dialogs, it goes on and on about what is best and that is to
>aim at precision and clarity in all that you do, its what
>it means to be honost socially, healthy biologicaly and wise intellectually
>its what it means to aim for excellence.
>
>The Socratic dialogs proceeded to apply this tool to the question of what does
>it mean to lead a "Good" life?
>Socrates interlocur was a hedonist and argued for selfish good but out of this
>dialog Socrates breaks down
>what we mean by "good" and that the best things are a mixture, not just any
>mixture but a harmonious mixture
>of goods. Therefore the highest good is pleasurable.
>
>We aim for excellence because it leads to a more pleasurable life.
>
>
>.
>Sounds alot like what RMP is driving huh.
>
>..
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