Hi All

André says:
This also means taking responsibility for the views one expresses. Views
(the MoQ shows us) that ought to go beyond the mere 'personal' experiences
of the individual.

Eddo asks;
You mean that the expressed views must represent the conventions of the
authorised institution(who ever that may be in the case of MOQ).

You mean a bit like the conflict Jesus had with the jewish priests 2000
years ago?

Kind regards,

Eddo Rats


2013/9/9 Andre Broersen <[email protected]>

> Marsha to Ron:
>
> Explanations are conventional, and Nagarjuna must use conventional
> language and relative truths to teach and point the way to the ultimate
> goal, nirvana. In the same way RMP uses convention static patterns to point
> the way to Dynamic Quality, the moon. Imho.
>
> Andre:
> I beg to differ with this one, eventhough the 'Imho' is a way out of
> course for Lucy. What she is asserting is that RMP developed his MoQ '...to
> point the way to Dynamic Quality, the moon'. I think he developed the MoQ
> NOT as a set of meditative injunctions (which is what it would boil down to
> then) but to improve the world a little bit. Otherwise forget about
> metaphysics.(LILA)
>
> This means recognizing we live in a conventional world 'conditioned'
> through static manifestations and creations, the 'ground' of which is
> recognized to be DQ. If the MoQ were merely a way to point to the moon
> through its static patterns he would not have said what he did on the cover
> of Hagan's 'Buddhism Plain and Simple': 'If you're looking for
> enlightenment rather than just scholarly knowledge, you'd better read this'.
>
> The MoQ can be seen as the need for an expansion of scholarly knowledge.
> Not only what has existed and needing to be re drafted but the creation of
> high value intellectual knowledge with which to guide and improve the world
> a little bit AS WELL AS continually working on your bicycle.
>
> This also means taking responsibility for the views one expresses. Views
> (the MoQ shows us) that ought to go beyond the mere 'personal' experiences
> of the individual.
>
> This warped one-sided perspective (Lucy takes) is typical of the confused
> state she desperately seeks to justify. She even uses Nagarjuna to defend
> her plot.
>
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