> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I understand it to be the Buddhist (imho) view that the self-object 
> (dualistic) point-of-view is perpetuated in two ways.  One is as acquired 
> through learning, from family, friends and teachers, an informal system of 
> philosophy or psychology - culture - that teaches that the person exists as 
> an independent being and so do objects in the world exist as independent 
> "stuff".  Through coming into contact with this type of education - mistaken 
> view of life - we learn it and believe it as correct.  The second self-object 
> (dualistic) point-of-view is innate and has been with us since the beginning 
> of time.  It has travelled with human beings through our evolution and has 
> become a part of how our consciousness (?brain?) has become a patterned 
> function: the known and knower.  It is not easy and quite unnatural to 
> overturn this conditioning.  
> All static patterns of value have been molded by this conditioning. 
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 

Even Buddhism though...

Jan-Anders
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