Hi Craig

But before we conceive of a rock what do we experience? Various patterns, 
colours, a location in our experience,  what it feels like,  its roughness,  
its heaviness. I experience these patterns pre-conceptually,  DMB seems to need 
to find the right concept before he experiences any patterns,  what is he 
experiencing I wonder,  let's hope he does not trip over the rock. I guess DMB 
is a prophet experiencing total undifferentiated oneness, who creates the world 
spinning his concepts,  anything can be spun, let DMB create the concept of a 
chair,  look here is a chair pattern now in front of DMB,  let DMB sit on the 
uncomfortable brown rocky chair he has just created,  let his followers gather 
round him,  let them make up any concepts they like and create all the patterns 
in the world,  they can make a world full of any patterns or things they like,  
what a lovely place so comfortable and safe. Meanwhile DM keeps throwing some 
small rocky ideas at DMB and his followers,  take that you cloud cuckoo land 
people,  try and conceptualise these hard rocky patterns so that they don't 
hurt you. Come on Zarathustra let's leave cloud cuckoo land and go for a beer.

DM  

Craig Erb <[email protected]> wrote:

>[dmb said to David Morey]
>> Isn't it true that your "pre-conceptual SQ" is just the pre-existing objects
>> of SOM?
> 
>3 philosophers (an SO Metaphysician, DM & dmb) are hiking.  They come upon a 
>rock and each try lifting it.  They each have the same
>(i.e., analogous) experience.  They discuss what a rock is.  The SO 
>Metaphysician says it's an object.  DM says it is an inorganic spov.
>dmb says it's a concept. The first 2 are talking about the same thing.  Is 
>dmb?  
>Craig
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