A WBAI interview (1960) from a series of interviews with modern poets:
David Ossman (interviewer):
What was it you said disturbed you? A "departure from the ordered"?
Robert Duncan (poet):
It sure wasn't! In the first place, there's nothing in this world you
experience if it isn't an order. If it were really not an order, you wouldn't
see it or hear it or know it or anything. The reason you see this ashtray is
because it's an order; all elements that might be there, that you have not
yourself brought into order, you do not see. I am a devout gestaltist. I
believe that you only see patterns, and those are already orders. So the
disordered is literally impossible. What you can have, though, is a bringing
more and more into conscious order. I think that what people call disorder is
not the world but stands for their very low tolerance of mixed orders. ...
(Duncan, Robert, 'A Poet's Mind', p. 11)
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