John said to dmb:
...I deleted a lot of your aspersions below.

dmb says:
By deleting them and by calling them "aspersions", you have doubly dismissed 
and evaded criticisms that I take to be quite sincere and valid. I think that 
is dishonest and seriously undermines any chance of having a real conversation. 
Please address those criticisms honestly and fairly.


                                          
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