[JC]
It's pretty quiet on L.S.  I agree.  Quiet except for the ravings of Tim and 
Bo, and they are loony. Maybe I'm loony too.  Pirsig certainly went all loony, 
and I don't know how any person living in this loony world can help it but go 
loony on occasion.

[Arlo]
This is one point I will comment on. I have nothing but love for "loony". Every 
person I have the privilege of calling "friend" is eccentric or 'strange' in 
some way. "Normalcy" is nothing more than a coercive hammer of 'power' (in the 
Foucaultian meaning). My advocacy for educational reform is largely constructed 
on this opposition to cultural conformity. I have a "Weirdo. Mosher. Freak." 
poster on my wall. 

That said, John, you have to be able to differentiate between "loony" and 
"delusional psychotic". Van Gogh was 'loony', but that does not make every 
inmate of every asylum a highly-creative post-impressionist painter. If you 
confuse incoherence with genius, you'll simple support the delusional's 
confusion of criticism with genius. This, as DMB pointed out, sadly symptomatic 
of many who read Pirsig, mistake their own delusions as evidence that they, 
too, like Phaedrus are misunderstood geniuses. If I had a dime for every 
self-proclaimed saviour-savant sent to the MD to rescue Pirsig from the evil, 
damnable 'intellectuals', I'd have enough to buy... well at least a round of 
beers for me and my loony friends.

[JC]
Tim and Bo both,, are as enamored of ideas and philosophy as anybody on this 
list..maybe more.

[Arlo]
When I was doing undergraduate work in clinical psychology, I did some 
observations at the local psych ward. I remember there was a patient there who 
was absolutely enamored with art, and would paint the walls with his feces. If 
you need someone to paint your house, I can see if he's still available.

The point is, don't confuse someone enamored exclusively with his own shit as 
being a good artist.

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