Hi David, Hi all, Brilliant presentation! I felt it outlined the main ideas of the MOQ in Lila quite lucidly. I've been meaning to re-read both Pirsig's books and this refresher about how profound the MOQ is, was the last bit of a push I needed to get back to them, so thanks.
This may or may not be the best thread to open up a discussion on this, and/or some of you reading this may have suggestions for other places to begin an exploration of this more in-depth, but anyway.. I'm curious to come to understand more about how this bit from your presentation can be applied to the way we live our lives and how we make choices about what really matters: "However, rather than the conflict between the two we are used to, Eastern Philosophy has found a way to combine both the Dynamic and static into one harmonious whole through the perfection of static patterns. By perfecting patterns they can be put to sleep and no longer bother. The simplest of all patterns one can do for extended periods is sitting." So, for example, when contemplating my own life as a young man of 27, I consider myself a "freedom loving intellectual" above all else, and as such have prioritized my pursuits of such matters above my desire to develop romantic social quality patterns with women (in other words, choosing to be "single" and free rather than stay in relationships that I felt were intellectually and dynamically limiting), I find myself at a bit of a loss as to how to "live the best life possible" when it comes to continuing to pursue my intellectual and dynamic sensibilities, while also managing my biological patterns of desiring sex, affection and a sense of intimacy/closeness with women (I guess biological AND social patterns?). How do we perfect those patterns in the context of pursuing higher-evolved patterns? I'm still not seeing very clearly where the "dynamic balance" is, as I don't feel it makes sense and/or makes most people happy to sacrifice any one quality pattern completely in order to pursue others. I could see myself staying a bachelor for most of my life, never socially involved to any great extent, due to the compulsion to be free and morph along with dynamic quality whenever the urge arises, and right now I might even say that sits well with me. But I'm 27, so that seems pretty normal to be a wanderer right now. I just wonder if there's a piece of the picture I'm missing that some of you older folks may care to share about, as far as how your pursuit of intellectual and dynamic values has affected your social/romantic lives and whether you see any "low quality-ness" about one choosing the life of a "freedom loving intellectual bachelor." Thanks, Jacob Postma On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow! > > This is somewhat in line with my intention with the unfinished "step one, > two, three" but much more delightful. > > I think, that an instruction how to read this site would be useful for > newcomers. It took me some time to find out that I should scroll down to > get the message. > > Jan-Anders > > > > 8 feb 2015 x kl. 00:53 skrev David Harding <[email protected]>: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I’ve just finished the second site http://moq.is <http://moq.is/> I’ve > created it as a way to give a rundown of some of the benefits of the MOQ. > > > > As always, feedback positive or negative is more than welcome. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
