HORSE: You obviously have a self-esteem problem and it makes you really,
really mean.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Horse [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 5:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: MD RE: Cloning and the MOQ
>
> Hi All
>
> On 9 Feb 99, at 2:17, David Buchanan wrote:
>
> > > Richard Budd felt the need to scold me for
> > > having the nerve to correct something he'd posted. I'd attempted
> to
> > > clarify the difference between two words that look alot alike,
> but
> > > have
> > > completely different meanings; mediate and meditate. It seemed
> he'd
> > > read
> > > one as the other and been confused by it. His response to my
> efforts
> > > was
> > > a little scornful. He wrote, "Great job exposing that typing
> error.
> > > You're quite insightful and should be very proud of yourself".
> That
> > > was
> > > it. He addressed none of the issues.
>
> Are you surprised? If you are then you should really think about the
> way that you have
> tended to address others on a number of occasions. But I doubt that
> this is the case as
> you appear to be intelligent enough to realize that your patronizing
> comments (and
> deliberate misinterpretation of what was obviously a typo) will only
> serve to annoy those
> you use as a means to introduce your own posts. It was probably the
> case that Richard
> didn't bother to address the issues you 'raised' because, like myself,
> as soon as he had
> read the first paragraph he dumped the post, as I imagine did most
> others judging from the
> overwhelming response you received.
>
>
> > > Rick: I don't think there was anything about my criticism that
> could
> > > be
> > > viewed as a personal attack. It certainly wasn't intended that
> way.
> > > Why
> > > the sensitivity? Why the lashing out? Are you trying to SHAME me
> into
> > > submission? Are you just trying to hurt my feelings? Please let
> this
> > > serve as an apology, if you've really been injured.
> > > I say we can disagree vigorously on the issues, but please
> refrain
> > > from
> > > snotty insults. Personal insults are almost impossible to take
> > > seriously anyway, since we don't "personally" know each other. You
> > > don't know me
> > > well enough to deliver any genuine and valid insults. I just ends
> up
> > > revealing too much about the attacker.
>
> The insensitivity, hypocrisy and double standards displayed in your
> own posts are
> sufficiently revealing of your own character. If you were interested
> in engaging others in
> debate rather than showing how stunningly witty you can be you would
> address others
> with the respect they deserve.
>
>
> > > This is a forum where we all put our ideas on the table for
> everyone
> > > to
> > > examine. Criticism and disagreement are the methods we use to
> > > discover
> > > the truth. Our disagreements are more productive and fun than any
> > > small-talk tea party ever was. Each of us has a reason to think
> these
> > > are important ideas. We all care about this stuff or wouldn't
> spend
> > > the
> > > time. Sure, there's gonna be passion and some heat, but I think
> we
> > > all
> > > owe it to each other to be very clear about what we mean. We
> should
> > > be frank and pointed in our objections. We should even try to use
> > > proper
> > > spelling and grammar, include descriptions and definitions of the
> > > words
> > > we employ, and otherwise respect the time of those who will read
> what
> > > is
> > > written. Each of us should be able to engage the debate fully
> without
> > > fear of retaliation. We shoudn't have to walk on egg shells. That
> is
> > > simply too dishonest and distracting.
>
> I completely agree that criticism and disagreement are the tools we
> use to probe our own
> and others beliefs. So perhaps you could utilize those tools instead
> of being patronizing,
> condescending and hypocritical. Additionally, if you want to champion
> proper spelling
> and grammar perhaps you should read you own posts before you send
> them, including
> this one - I counted 3 spelling mistakes just from a quick glance
> through. Personally, I
> don't think that the odd spelling mistake or grammatical slip is of
> any great consequence
> except to a pedant.
>
>
> > > I realize I may come off as a know-it-all here,
>
> You certainly do.
>
> > > but I really do have
> > > alot of experience with discussion groups. (Been doing it for
> over
> > > ten
> > > years including five years as a talk show producer and a little
> time
> > > as
> > > a talk radio host. It sure is nice to have someone else taking
> care
> > > of
> > > things for a change.)
>
> So what? I really couldn't care less if you're Jerry Springer in
> disguise. This is yet another
> example of your patronizing attitude. Your experience counts for
> nothing if you are
> incapable of showing sufficient respect towards those you wish to
> engage in conversation.
>
> > > People will occasionally get their feelings
> > > hurt
> > > when a pet idea is rejected or ignored. Even when a flaw in logic
> or
> > > factual error is discovered it can sting a little. We just have
> to
> > > be
> > > adult about it and resist the temptation to hurt the messenger
> rather
> > > than address the criticism. If all you want in life is an
> un-bruised
> > > ego, this is not your kind of hobby.
>
> And yet more hypocrisy! You should also take some of your own advice
> sometimes.
>
>
> > > I hate to point fingers after having said all that, but ask
> yourself
> > > these questions. Do you imagine that threats and insults are
> > > productive in any way? Do you imagine that behaviour has earned
> > > any respect? Do think anyone was impressed reading abusive posts?
> > > The answers are no, no and no.
>
> Then why do you indulge in insults to the degree you do?
> Why do you show so little respect to others?
> I'm certainly not impressed by your abusive, derogatory and
> ill-conceived posts. I find
> them risible in the extreme.
> Incidentally, your last paragraph makes very little sense. At whom are
> you pointing the
> finger? Which threats and insults? Which behaviour? Which abusive
> posts? You could at
> least try and be a little clearer when trying to condemn others for
> the very behaviour you
> continually exhibit.
> I think you win this months award for the most pointless and
> irrelevant post.
>
>
> Horse
>
>
>
>
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