Hi Drose, Horse, David and Group.

Before plunging into a response to Horse's post of 12 Feb., I need to 
remind myself of Pirsig's warning:

�To put philosophy in the service of any social organization or dogma is 
immoral. It's a lower form of evolution trying to devour a higher one.�(Lila, 
Chap. 29)

Pirsig also said a few paragraphs on:

�Ideologues usually talk in terms of sweeping generalities. . . . He didn't 
like Hegel or any of the German idealists who dominated philosophy in 
his youth precisely because they were so general and sweeping in their 
approach.�

Heeding Pirsig's not to use the MoQ to defend or deplore any "ism," I'll 
refrain from making the case that capitalism is inherently more moral 
than socialism other than to repeat Drose's statement, �Anytime the 
government coerces the individual for any reason, freedom is abridged," 
and Pirsig's statement that the "only perceived good" of Dynamic Quality 
is �freedom."

But from Pirsig's suspicion of generalities I take courage in asking Horse 
to explain the following sweeping generalities from his Feb. 12 post: 
�socialist principles,� �collective responsibility,� �social conscience,� 
�social responsibility� and �virtues of the collective.�

These great flowery phrases have the look of goody-goodism all over 
them in order to hide the ugly fact that at their root lies the barrel of a 
government gun. I may be wrong, but I suspect such generalities mean 
redistribution of wealth in the name of "equality" and "fairness," and that 
among socialist principles one would find �from each according to his 
ability, to each according to his needs.�

I haven't read any of Norm Chomsky's books but have seen him lecture 
enough on C-Span to conclude that he's a Marxist who, like many 
celebrated academics, has become a professor emeritus of gibberish, 
employing language and jargon to obfuscate rather than enlighten. Case 
in point--the phrase �libertarian socialist,� an oxymoron if there ever was 
one, on a par with �the mountains of Holland.� (As an aside, �mutually 
exclusive� seems to be as foreign to Horse's allowable thought processes 
as �absolutes.�)

Consider �fascist socialism.� Now there's a dualism that carries real 
meaning given the history of the 20th century with its concentration 
camps, gulags and a couple of hundred million dead. Separating those 
two words is the real challenge for those who seek the Good, among 
whom I have not the slightest doubt are all the contributors to this site.

Platt




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