Horse, Roger, Struan, Jonathan, David: LILA - PAGE 64 "The central reality of mysticism, the reality that Phaedrus had called "Quality" in his first book, is not a metaphysical chess piece." LILA - PAGE 103 ""another one handled by the MOQ is the "scientific reality" platypus. This is a very large monster that has been disturbing a lot of people for a long time. It was identified a century ago by the mathematician and astronomer, Henri Poincar'e who asked, 'Why is the reality most acceptable to science one that no small child can be expected to understand?'. SHOULD reality be something that only a handful of the world's most advanced physicists understand? .... In a value-centered MOQ this "scientific reality" vanishes. .... science is a set of static intellectual patterns describing this reality, but the patterns are NOT the reality they describe." I appreciate the attempt by Horse to give equal time to the mystics and rationalists, although I suspect alternating months might be tough to do. We can't ask a scientific thinker to affect a mystical point of view any more than we can ask a Rush Limbaugh fan to pretend he's a liberal. I think the trick is to raise questions that can be answered from many perspectives. Then the sum of the conversation can be greater than .... I've included the LILA quotes to serve as an anchor. If a debate or new topic is started by this posting, we can use the quotes as a reference. Then we're all on the same page, literally and figuratively. I wonder what would happen if 20 people each posted their own response to the quotes. There are three distinct roads a person could choose; respond to the first quote, the second quote, or to both of them. There is mention of both science and mysticism, which should offer something to just about anyone. Any chess lovers out there? David MOQ Homepage - http://www.moq.org Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/
