Hi Jonathan, Kevin and Group:

Again I have searched through LILA in vain to find references to 
"collective responsibility." The closest thing I could find to the idea was 
said by Richard Rigel in his tirade against the author in Chapter 6:

�. . . neither you or Lila or anyone else can just go acting as you please 
in disregard of everyone else, deciding what does and what does not 
have 'Quality.' You *do* have a moral and legal obligation to obey the 
same rules others do."

A little later in Chapter 7, Pirsig says about Rigel:

"All that Rigel was referring to about sacred duties and home and family 
went out fifty years ago."

That's the way I feel about "collective responsibility.� When someone 
starts talking about collective duties and responsibilities I think of a Rigel-
like person who is "full of great ways for others to improve without any 
expense to themselves," usually a politician or priest who demands that 
some group (like the rich) give up something that they have for the 
benefit of another group (like the poor).

Also, I�ve seen collective responsibility used as a means of intimidation, 
as when entire villages were wiped out by the Nazis in reprisal for an act 
of sabotage.

On a less fatal scale, collective responsibility for slavery has been 
cynically used by politicians in the U.S. to vote in such discriminatory 
programs as Affirmative Action.

And woe unto those who don't buy the notion of collective responsibility. 
They're attacked as selfish, mean-spirited Neanderthals, hardly worthy of 
the name "human"   . . a phenomena symptomatic of the "Giant" hard at 
work to preserve his top status against the incursion of intellect. (Anyone 
familiar with political correctness?)

For such reasons, I balk at the notion of collective responsibility. Both 
Jonathan and Kevin argue that responsibilities and duties are "implicit" in 
Pirsig's metaphysics. After all, it's about morals is it not? And don't morals 
automatically imply duties and responsibilities?

I answer, "not necessarily." Otherwise Pirsig would have spent a lot more 
time on spelling out what those duties and responsibilities were at each 
level. Instead, he mentions duties hardly at all except to put them in 
Rigel's head as foil to his own philosophy where the highest morals are 
matters of individual free choice towards Quality.

I won't argue that a group doesn't need to have an agreed upon set of 
rules and practices in order to function effectively. But I will argue that 
the MOQ, in placing morality at the center of the universe, goes far 
beyond the Rigel-like notion of morality being primarily about social 
obligation.

Platt





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