Glove,

I just read your post and need some time to digest what you are saying.  I would
like to go into this further since you seem to understand where I am coming from
and you still agree with the levels.  I am trying to get there!

To let you know, I was referring to J. Krishnamurti.  Krish and Pirsig are the
only philosophers I have really studied and I am truely greatful that they are
the ones I have been exposed to.  Together, they both make sense yet clash. I
would like to ask more questions of you, but for now I am curious how you would
harmonize the two?  Krish talks about never concluding and Pirisig concludes.
Krish stresses observation and Pirsig analyzes. I guess it goes way back to my
original question: what practical value do the levels have?

I see the beauty of the levels, but they have not changed any of my
attitudes/behaviors/thoughts in any ethical situations.  Does knowledge of the
levels *ever* give one a greater grasp of a situation.  Would Mother Teresa [or
insert name here] have been a better person with knowledge them?  If you can
give an example I could be easily persuaded.  If not, then how can it be a good
theory if it has no power?

BTW, your "New Scientist" link did not work.  I will spend more time later
tracking the article, but do you have a copy you could easily email?

Take Care,
RJS




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