ROG STILL THINKS PIRSIG IS CONFUSED 
(OR CONFUSING) ON FREE WILL

Welcome To the discussion Richard.  You state:
<<<<< 
But as far as describing any level as 'more free'
than the other; this must surely be nonsense. The Free Will that a 
man has is going to be on a Social/ intellectual level anyway. Mans free will 
is surely nothing to do with his cells or digestive system. I think that 
you are still viewing a mans mind as possesing a body or vice versa and 
so on an so forth (?!). I'm not sure that it really works like that at all 
(ie 
like SOM). >>>>>

Actually, I think Rich and I are thinking that Pirsig is doing just what you 
warn against. Did you see Rich's original quotes? It is Pirsig who said free 
will is a property isolated to "living beings". As for a level being more 
free, I would say that a pattern is more free per the MOQ based on its DQ. 
Since higher level patterns are more dynamic per RMP, then the contradiction 
is his, not ours wouldn't you say?

Rog

 



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