Hi Glove and Group:

On June 16, Glove wrote:

> So what is the reason for reason? Reason is a way for us to be comfortable.
> We tell ourselves that we know how the universe began... we even calculate
> to the microsecond what occurred at the beginning of the universe with our
> reasoning. Things are not quite so scary for us then perhaps? Reason is the
> capability to form conceptual agreements with other humans and elevate
> ourselves to the top of the evolutionary ladder. A grand culmination of
> billions and billions of years, resulting in us! How can we not help but
> swell up our chests in pride...

Not only does reason make us comfortable, it�s necessary for our 
survival. Unlike animals who are born with the tools needed to live, we 
humans must use our wits to outfox mother nature and her predatory 
creatures. Basic to our being here at all is the If-Then pattern of thought: 
�If we surround that wild pig with our spears, brother Sapiens, then we'll 
eat tonight.�

Glove:
 
> The universe didn't begin billions of years ago... it began when we each
> became aware of it. And it will not end in billions of years as it expands
> into plasma streams or collapses back on itself... it will end when each of
> us as individuals die. That is the beginning and ending of Quality as we
> understand it to be. That is the beginning and ending of the universe. And
> to my understanding, the MOQ states the same.

That�s my understanding, too. I'm thinking of having written on my 
tombstone, �Mine was the only world."

We have yet to come to terms with quantum physics which has 
demonstrated conclusively that in some mysterious way subject and 
object are united.

We're built to see the world as split between subject and object, us and 
them, before and after, here and there, etc. Such imaginary divisions 
create our life-saving rational patterns. We see the world as we need to 
to survive.

I think Glove's statement might well be used as the first principle of the 
MOQ. If we can't agree on that, we may be just using the MOQ to support 
our own preconceived moral patterns or philosophical worldviews.

Platt





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