Jamie, David and Walter Thanks for the comments, Jamie. I agree with what you have written and added, and I loved all the great input from David and Walter. However, I want to share one other old analogy on DQ as opposed to sq. In a letter to Horse and Walter about 6 months ago, I used the example of rolling a lump of clay. As you roll it, the experience (for the clay) changes. Originally, the experience is one of getting rounder and changing shape. The clay experiences its rough edges being smoothed out. With continued rolling, the experience changes as the clay gets fewer edges and bumps. The experience becomes different....less extreme. When our clay becomes perfectly round, it will still feel itself spinning , but the impact of all this rolling is pretty much neutral.... it is ignored. (BTW An Alzheimer patient would be like a lump of clay that smoothed briefly with each roll, but then always bounced back to original shape. It can roll forever, and the experience of being reshaped persists.) The dynamic experience of listening to a song is similar to our clay rolling. The first listen or two are quite different experiences than the thousandth re-listen. Eventually if played indefinitely, a song would be filtered out as background noise. In the MOQ, experience is primary. The thousandth experience is quite different than the first, and the subject and object that are created from the experience are correspondingly changing. On the other hand, in regular (non MOQ) metaphysics, the only reasonable explanation to the change in experience is purely subjective.....The Song Remains The Same so the listener must have changed perceptions on it. Perception in classic metaphysics belongs to the subject. In the MOQ, the experience is considered foremost and the song and listener are abstracted from the process. But Then Again, I Could Be Wrong Roger (Feel free to quote as you'd like BTW) MOQ Online Homepage - http://www.moq.org Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ Unsubscribe - http://www.moq.org/md/index.html MD Queries - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
