ROGER AGREES WITH CURTIS THAT WE NEED SOME REAL-LIFE EXAMPLES OF THE DQ/SQ SEPARATION To Curtis, Bo, and the Reality gang, CURTIS WROTE: Assume I am making plans to do something-or-other. The plan-making process is definitely DQ. (esp. if it's something I've never done before, like sky-diving). Does that mean that when I actually jump out the airplane, it's SQ? I must admit I am confused on this issue. ROGER: Allow me to rephrase the summary from my last two posts(general though it is). 1) DQ is everyday Direct Experience, by which we mean pre-subject and pre-object and pre-conceptual. DQ is the changing flux of reality. In RMP's words, it is "The ongoing Dynamic edge of all experience, both positive and negative, even the dynamic edge of thought itself." 2) SQ is subjectified and objectified patterns. These are conceptual models that are our best representations of pre-conceptual experience. These are often confused with reality because (to quote the only person I know of with a PHD in MOQ, Anthony McWatt) "they have become such a common apparatus for describing, understanding and analysing that reality." CURTIS: Oh, and can I suggest that we stick closely to the example given here instead of making too many generalizations? ROGER: Okay. The preconceptual experience, even the preconceptual process of thinking itself is DQ. Your preconceptual planning and jumping experiences are DQ. Your concepts , words and memories, your divisions of yourself from the plane, and of your thoughts from the external world are all conceptual models, hence, sq. Please read my two prior Reality posts for for any needed elaboration and explanations. Roger PS -- Bo, does your SOLAQI concept align with what you said about s/o logic's limitations? MOQ Online Homepage - http://www.moq.org Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ Unsubscribe - http://www.moq.org/md/index.html MD Queries - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
