beep - beep - beep - coming out of lurk mode - beep - beep - beep couiple of thoughts about the mystical/biological discussion. maybe i'm not getting the gist of the discussion so far (it's been known to happen) - but it seems to me that mystics have less to do with the biological level than non-mystics. even definitions of mystic (most involve references to "spirit" and "spiritual") would seem to indicate that the mystic is more in touch with the spirit (whatever that is for you) - for me the spirit is definitely not - physical (and therefore not biological) when i look at myself as a mystic - what comes to mind is my efforts to focus past the physical/biological and tap into the spiritual forces in the universe - the energy that exists all around us. re: abandoning biological patterns. i don't see this as killing off the body (but i can see how it could be taken that way) - it's more like focusing past the physical. has anyone ever meditated abd reached a place where their awareness of their body ceased? at times when i meditate, i go there....no awareness (that i can sense) of the body....pure spirit/energy....no longer feeling the ground beneath me or the breathes i take.....feels like i am in touch with the universe itself. would this not be a way of abandoning biological patterns? Shalom David Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] beep - beep - beep - returning to lurk mode - beep - beep - beep MOQ Online Homepage - http://www.moq.org Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ Unsubscribe - http://www.moq.org/md/index.html MD Queries - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
