In a message dated 9/8/99 9:40:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>  
>  what is art?  an artist friend of mine has the following quote hanging
>  in her house:  "art is art as art.  everything else is everything
>  else"
> 

xcto:

Wow, I just got through housecleaning 187 emails, and I wanted to put my two 
cents in:
 
The main reason Pirsig wrote Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance was 
the fact that the subjectiveness of art was not divorced from the 
objectiveness of science, or rather it was a false separation.

30 years ago comic books were not considered art.

Now there are major exhibitions of comic art, and a comic book has even won 
the Pulitzer Prize ('Maus' by Art Speigelmann).  And I would say that the 
Pulitzer is one of the highest honors for Literature (considered an Art form).

The mistake about art, I think, comes from the idea that art is an either/or 
question.  

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I picked up an interesting book about comics ("Understanding Comics" by Scott 
McCloud) that presents the idea that art exists in any human endeavor that is 
not for the purpose of survival or reproduction.  Now there is obvious high 
and low quality in these endeavors, but he believes Art exists in all of 
them.  The question of what is art disappears into the simple expression of 
human individuality.
McCloud goes on and says:

...Rare is the person in ANY [his stresses] occupation who expresses 
NOTHING...and rare is the Artist who cares nothing for Success, i.e., 
Survival!  But the IDEAL of the latter is alive in the hearts of many artists 
who may hope for success, but won't alter their work to obtain it.  
    The...PURE Artist says to the world:  "I didn't do this for money!  I 
didn't do this to match the color of your couches!  I didn't do this to get 
laid!...I did this for ART!  
    In other words:  "MY ART HAS NO PRACTICAL VALUE WHATSOEVER!"  
    "But it's important!"

So in my own thinking Art is always the chase for Dynamic Quality and the 
payoff of success is mostly determined by the Artists' own desires.  You can 
pay that Spanish dude all the gold you want but he will still paint an ugly 
patron ugly...what's that guys name?

But at the same time Art resides in the farmer that ties together his hay 
into whimsical shapes, or the mechanic who cleans off greasy hoses.

Now the question at hand seems to be the Art Critics (the PRIZE givers) and 
Audiences ... but that is such a static social issue that I don't want to get 
into it.

What do you think?
xcto


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