xcto: I've been enjoying your posts, but you've lost me here. DMB > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 12:15 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: MD Slaying the dragon. Money is not the basic Social > unit. > > > The only point I would like to say is that our dreams do NOT create > the basis > of our dreams and legends. It is actually the otherway around. Our > myths > create our dreams, our dynamic mythos. I think the MOQ actually > supports the > idea that "man does not make God, but God makes men [what they are]". > I'm > not trying to support any particular religious idea, but more of > taking the > ideas of Campbell and others leads me to believe in the power of the > mythos. > Reread the rest of this post and maybe you will see the mythos > creating man a > bit more. > > > I believe the mythos is the most basic foundation of the Social Level. > The > mythos is the cultural riverbed that our waters flow through and it's > static > nature determines many boundaries in which we can dynamically change > without > creating chaos for ourselves. The most important part though, is how > our > Intellect resides in this Social level in such a way that is controls > it but > is dependent on it; the dynamic part of the Intellect could not > survive > without the Social level's stability (Maslow). > > But these pre-historical myths do not tell us the Moral Laws which the > social > level demands, the 'Thou Shalts' (as in Thou Shalt Not Kill) I guess > you > would say. When you think about it, I guess you must say that the > 'Thou > Shalts' are the static Intellectual representations of the Moral Laws > which > the Social level has taken as its Principles (the basic unit of my > Intellectual Level (MOxcto until more people agree with me)). Thus, > the > Moral Laws do not change the mythos, but are created by a social group > and > creates a different myth that is a contains the shared mythos plus a > series > of laws and culture that are special to that group. > > Now of course, this directly attacks many people's idea of the > Social/Intellectual relationship, but this is as good as a time to > argue it > out as any. > > The point here is to show that the Giant is really the creation of a > social > groups myth, specifically western civilization. The Giant's ability > to > gather power is it's most important reason that it is so predominant > today. > Money is a unit of value, but to me the Social Level's basic unit is > power > (Control). Control of property, instinct, desire, people, ideas. > These are > the static activites of the Social level. Today, money is obvious the > > quickest way to power, but the Celebrity factor shows you don't mean > money to > have Control(though money often is the result of celebrity control). > > > What do you say of my ideas? > > xcto > > > MOQ Online Homepage - http://www.moq.org Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ Unsubscribe - http://www.moq.org/md/index.html MD Queries - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
