Struan - mea culpa (partially) - i re-read DMB's post.  at first i
didn't get that there was flaming going on - i truly enjoyed the
description/distinction of metaphor and analogy.  of course, i wasn't
the one being used in every example.  (i also don't track people's
posts - meaning i don't remember who wroite what....i deal with each
posts one on one - so, as i read his i didn't make the connection that
he was flaming you (albeit under the table) 

I'm still against flaming.  anytime we attack the who or the how
rather than the what - we lose.  a chance for true learning or growth
- we get stuck in static patterns.  I think the biggest problem in
this forum (and i am in no way an exception to it obviousily) is when
people post without fully understanding the post they're responding
too.  it leads to knee jerk reaction posts.  

i appreciate your question.  why?  because it was asked in a way that
did not bash me for my apparent contradiction, it allowed me to step
back and look at what i wrote (since you didn't use and emotional
attack, i felt no need to respond emationally)  I appreciate that. 
Alot.  And mostly, because i got a chance to look at what i wrote,
consider my position and make a choice that had higher value. 
Ahhhh......if all postings could be so beneficial.  maybe they are and
my desire for them to look a certain way blinds me to this.

also - an amendment to my post to DMB - what i said holds true, with
the exception that upon re-reading your post, it does seem that you
used your point to do some sidewise slams at struan.  just a thought
.... what if you would have used a neutral "Imaginary person" for your
post (or yourself?) - wouldn't that have still made the point and not
been attacking?  hmmmm....am i falling into the how you said it
argument i seem to be so against?  feel free to respond to this ANYONE
- i like discovering who i am and how i think - the "real me"  under
my skin (is there such a thing? - wink).  i just don't like having my
skin flamed off in the process.  :o)  There's a story about how
michelangelo created the statue "David" - it is said that when asked
about how he created it, he said he just chipped away everything thsat
wasn't "David" - i think this is analogous?  metaphorical?  (i guess
metaphorical - you can't really chip away at a person like marble -
help me with this one DMB (i'm NOT being facetious here.  trust me) -
anyways - life is like that - we find out who we are by little pieces
of what's "not us" - get chipped away (or worn away....)  Don't know
why i sharted this - seemed appropriate.

And lastly - just a checking of "reality" (whatever that is) - was
there a difference for most people between struan's, denis', and dmb
posts from the past few days and struan's question to me - the flavor
of the posts, in how they were handled, how people reacted to them,
etc.... i don't want to have "rules" per se for this forum, but it
seems that the points i make (but don't always follow) would benefit
the flow of discussion.

it IS all good.  (i just LIKE some of it better)  :o)

shalom

David Lind
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