David B. wrote:
> Platt: Wilber discusses subjects and objects precisely the same way Pirsig
> does, they both have developed a view that transcends SOM. And Wilber's
> insistence that we consider these "things" to have a "certain conventional
> reality", I think, only reflects Pirsig's message about SOM and the MOQ
> being two different sets of co-ordinates. MOre than that, Wilber's terms are
> different, but I can even see the static/Dynamic split in his picture. There
> are more levels, levels within them and even his static patterns, which he
> calls holons, are more interesting and rich. Reading Wilber after all these
> Pirsig discussions has been like putting meat on the bones. Its the same
> thing, only more so. I owe you, and everyone else, for helping me get to the
> point where I can really appreciate a guy like Wilber. So, thanks y'all!
I didn't mean to badmouth Wilber in any way. He taught me more about
philosophy than anyone else. He and Pirsig are kissing cousins for sure. But
the basic split in his metaphysical quadrant is Interior-Exterior. To my
knowledge only Pirsig makes Morality the ground of the whole metaphysical
enchalada. Platt
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